[tex-live] a question about when gets the TL database refreshed in mirrors

[jfbu]

Le 6 oct. 2012 à 19:11, jfbu <jfbu at free.fr> a écrit :

> 
> Le 6 oct. 2012 à 19:00, Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard <mpg at elzevir.fr> a écrit :
> 
>> On 06/10/2012 18:17, jfbu wrote:
>>> But then I am puzzled, because as I said the mirror I queried does have
>>> updated packages, compared to my computer;
>> 
>> What makes you think it does?
>> 
>>> so then why does tlmgr tell me there are no updates to install?
>>> 
>> One possible explanation is that there is actually nothing to update.
>> 
>>> I installed TL2012 only recently (circa a month ago) and so far all updates
>>> were done (via Tex Live Utility on my Mac) successfully once or twice a week
>>> when I saw packages announced on the ctan-ann RSS feed. But for the last week
>>> or so, TLU, and also tlmgr from the command line, both tell me agains all
>>> evidences (to the simple minded me ;-) ) that there are no updates to
>>> install.
>>> 
>> The packages aren't imported from CTAN automatically, a human coprocessor is
>> needed to start and supervise the process. It happens that Karl, who usually
>> handles this process alone, has been mostly offline for a few days. That
>> explains why updates are coming slower. (But you can expect a bunch of updates
>> tomorrow or the day after.)
>> 
>> However, three packages where added/updated recently: ocgx, media9 and abraces.
>> You may want to check if abraces is present in your installation (using 'tlmgr
>> info abraces' for example): if it is, your installation is up-to-date.
>> Otherwise, there may indeed be a problem on your side, since the package is
>> present at the oleane mirror and should be auto-installed (assuming
>> collection-latexextra is installed).
>> 
>> hth,
>> Manuel.
>> 
>> PS: your initial message looks like an example of the XYZ syndrom: you notice a
>> problem X (no update), think of a possible explanation Y (texlive.tlpdb not in
>> sync with actual packages on mirror) and than ask about Y, while the real
>> explanation is Z (maybe there aren't any updates). Please try to ask about X
>> first, next time :)
> 
> 
> Manuel:
> 
> Index de ftp://ftp.oleane.net/pub/CTAN/fonts/mathdesign/
> 
> Vers un rép. de plus haut niveau
> 
> Nom	Taille	Dernière modification
> afm		05/10/12	11:49:00
> config		05/10/12	11:49:00
> doc		05/10/12	11:49:00
> enc		05/10/12	11:49:00
> latex		05/10/12	11:49:00
> map		05/10/12	11:49:00
> mathdesign-doc.pdf		06/10/12	00:00:00
> MD-Adobe-Adobe-Garamond-Pro-example.pdf	598 KB	05/10/12	09:59:00
> MD-Adobe-Utopia-example.pdf	238 KB	05/10/12	09:59:00
> MD-Adobe-Utopia-Std-example.pdf	465 KB	05/10/12	09:59:00
> MD-Bitstream-Bitstream-Charter-example.pdf	231 KB	05/10/12	09:59:00
> MD-itc-Charter-ITC-Std-example.pdf	370 KB	05/10/12	09:59:00
> MD-urw-GaramondNo8-example.pdf	255 KB	05/10/12	09:59:00
> opentype		05/10/12	11:49:00
> tfm		05/10/12	11:49:00
> type1		05/10/12	11:49:00
> vf		05/10/12	11:49:00
> 
> Definitely my version of mathdesign on my system is older
> 
> 
> texdoc --list mathdesign-doc.pdf
> 1 /usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/doc/latex/mathdesign/mathdesign-doc.pdf
>   = Package documentation
> 2 /usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/doc/fonts/mathdesign/mathdesign-doc.pdf
>   = Package documentation
> Please enter the number of the file to view, anything else to skip: 1
> 
> and then from the pdf I see it dates back to 2006
> 
> The mathdesign package Paul Pichaureau
> 
> January 29, 2006
> 
> The file on 
> 
> ftp://ftp.oleane.net/pub/CTAN/fonts/mathdesign/mathdesign-doc.pdf
> 
> has title
> 
> The mathdesign package
> Paul Pichaureau
> 
> October 5, 2012
> 
> 
> Allright and I repeat that despite this I get
> 
> xxx$ tlmgr --repository=ftp://ftp.oleane.net/pub/CTAN/systems/texlive/tlnet update -all
> tlmgr: package repository ftp://ftp.oleane.net/pub/CTAN/systems/texlive/tlnet
> tlmgr: saving backups to /usr/local/texlive/2012/tlpkg/backups
> tlmgr: no updates available
> 
> So I am not sure I mixed up X, Y and Z
> 
> Regards and thanks
> 
> Jean-Francois
> 
> 
> 
> 


Here is another example

xxx$ tlmgr --repository=ftp://ftp.oleane.net/pub/CTAN/systems/texlive/tlnet info loops
tlmgr: package repository ftp://ftp.oleane.net/pub/CTAN/systems/texlive/tlnet
tlmgr: cannot find package loops

on the other hand if I go to ftp.oleane.net I see that loops is there 

Index de ftp://ftp.oleane.net/pub/CTAN/macros/latex/contrib/loops/

Vers un rép. de plus haut niveau

Nom	Taille	Dernière modification
loops.sty	36 KB	29/09/12	22:30:00
README	15 KB	29/09/12	20:24:00

So this brings me back to my initial question:

when should I expect the information on new or updated packages to be relayed by tlmgr?

regards

Jean-Francois