citing legal sources with automated tools- any legal scholars here?

[Mike Marchywka]

Thanks, on a quick read that looks like it can be another domain specific
special case for TooBib which is designed for ad hoc things. 
However,  if you have the info somewhere like that it should be easy to regenerate
the pdf articles with extended information containing that in 
a machine readable form :) Then at least my tools could read it :)

It looks like the acknowledgement entry uses variables so I guess you 
need to download the whole file to get their values or I'll see if those are 
defined in a separate small file on their own. 


What a lot of sites do is have a url naming convention similar
to what tugboat apparently has and you can get from a pdf
file to html with a simple set of sed commands and then 
scrape the html ( the ldjson thing is getting more popular ).


Thanks. 


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________________________________________
From: David Carlisle <d.p.carlisle at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 8:51 AM
To: Mike Marchywka
Subject: Re: citing legal sources with automated tools- any legal scholars here?

for tugboat at least there is a full bibtex set at

http://ftp.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/tugboat.html

(there are notes at the top discussing how that is extracted)

David


so for F Bennet's paper

@Article{Bennett:TB14-3-187,
  author =       "Frank G. {Bennett, Jr.}",
  title =        "{{\LexiTeX}: context-sensitive legal citations for
                 {\LaTeX}}",
  journal =      j-TUGboat,
  volume =       "14",
  number =       "3",
  pages =        "187--195",
  month =        oct,
  year =         "1993",
  ISSN =         "0896-3207",
  ISSN-L =       "0896-3207",
  bibdate =      "Fri Jul 13 10:24:20 MDT 2007",
  bibsource =
"http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/index-table-t.html#tugboat;
                 http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/tugboat.bib",
  URL =          "https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb14-3/tb40bennett.pdf",
  acknowledgement = ack-bnb # " and " # ack-nhfb,
  fjournal =     "TUGboat",
  issue =        "40",
  journal-URL =  "https://tug.org/TUGboat/",
}

On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 at 13:05, Mike Marchywka <marchywka at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I was reading the news this AM and a local story referenced this
> complaint,
>
> https://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2021/comp-pr2021-163.pdf
>
> so I was curious to see if it could be cited with automated tools.
> Neither my tool TooBib nor the Zotero webform returned useful results.
>
> I then found this paper,
>
> https://tug.org/TUGboat/tb14-3/tb40bennett.pdf
>
> which also did not appear to generate bibtex entries from
> either tool :) Curious if any authors here cite legal
> sources and how they do it. Or, if TUG can put machine readable
> citation info in their pdf files ( I prefer my approach :) ).
> Depending on how its written, it may be easy to extract the bibliographic
> info from the LaTex source code...
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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