[EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
David Carlisle
d.p.carlisle at gmail.com
Wed May 26 10:33:12 CEST 2021
On Wed, 26 May 2021 at 01:58, AC <achirvasub at gmail.com> wrote:
> Bam! Got it!
>
> Some relevant links on this utf-8 problem are LaTeX2e News Issue 28[0] and
> this[1] LaTeX stackexchange answer that sent me to [0] in the first place.
>
> Apparently, starting in 2018, special characters entered directly from the
> keyboard (like that fancy \226 hyphen thing) in documents that do not
> define an encoding generate an error under pdflatex.
>
> Experiments:
>
> (1) on the command line, run
>
> pdflatex '\UseRawInputEncoding \input' dgn.tex
>
> instead; no error, but no dash produced between 'Condon' and 'Shortley'.
>
> (2) alternatively, add
>
> \UseRawInputEncoding
>
> as the very first line of dgn.tex. Then just plain
>
> pdflatex dgn.tex
>
> again doesn't error, bur again doesn't make the dash.
>
> (3) finally, add
>
> \usepackage[cp1252]{inputenc}
>
> right after \documentclass. This time pdflatex will produce a document
> without erroring *and* render that fancy hyphen.
>
> Conclusion: you can't just enter special characters from the keyboard. You
> need to produce them with TeX commands (like the \'e for accents, etc.) or
> specify an encoding to pass to inputenc.
>
That is rather misleading, You do not need to use \UseRawInputEncoding .
You simply need to specify the encoding that you use, possibly
\usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
or (better) save the file in UTF-8.
David
> ---
>
> References:
>
> [0] https://www.latex-project.org/news/latex2e-news/ltnews28.pdf
> [1] https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/429194/193209
>
> On May 25, 2021 8:24:05 PM EDT, AC <achirvasub at gmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 25, 2021 7:35:57 PM EDT, Robert Jantzen
> ><robert.jantzen at villanova.edu> wrote:
> >>Hi Stuart,
> >>
> >>I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your help.
> >>
> >
> >You bet! You'll always find enough computer geeks on these mailing
> >lists who will do this out of sheer curiosity as to whether it works
> >:).
> >
> >Now, about that UTF-8 error: the complaint is
> >
> >Package inputenc Error: Invalid UTF-8 byte "96
> >
> >In a text editor, viewing the error jumps me to the following passage
> >in your text:
> >
> >"The spherical harmonics are usually defined with an extra sign
> >$(-1)^m$ called the Condon\226Shortley phase to make the ladder
> >operator formulas simpler."
> >
> >It's that thing displayed in the source as \226 that's producing the
> >error. I don't know what it was meant to be, but in the pdf I sent you
> >it simply doesn't render: the text appears as the (obviously wrong)
> >merged 'CondonShortley'.
> >
> >If it was meant to be a dash, maybe just make it a plain minus sign.
> >
> >On May 25, 2021 7:35:57 PM EDT, Robert Jantzen
> ><robert.jantzen at villanova.edu> wrote:
> >>Hi Stuart,
> >>
> >>I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your help. I will install TeX
> >>Live and try to reproduce your success and let everyone know.
> >>
> >>bob
> >>
> >>
> >>bob jantzen
> >>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
> >>http://www.drbobenterprises.com
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Stuart Little <achirvasub at gmail.com>
> >>Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:23 PM
> >>To: Robert Jantzen <robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>
> >>Cc: texhax at tug.org; Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>; Dr
> >>Alan Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>
> >>Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
> >>
> >>On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 11:14:21PM +0000, Robert Jantzen wrote:
> >>> My apologies, I thought I had saved it after correcting it, but I
> >>saved it again after sending the cache message and then checked the
> >>link to make sure it worked.
> >>>
> >>> I appreciate your efforts to help me.
> >>>
> >>
> >>No worries.
> >>
> >>About the compilation: it was so fast because I had also unpacked the
> >>converted-to-pdf images, so those were ready. Without unpacking those
> >>the compilation still seems to have worked, but it took just a few
> >>seconds longer. In any case, it produces a pdf with working
> >>cross-references, as downloadable at the link I provided earlier.
> >>
> >>Here, too, is the gzipped and tarred working directory (with the
> >images
> >>placed properly in the 'images/' subdirectory, etc.):
> >>
> >>
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dropbox.com%2Fs%2Fvdke4p8s1kuax75%2Fdgn.tar.gz%3Fdl%3D0&data=04%7C01%7Crobert.jantzen%40villanova.edu%7C7fe7dfbb05e94667aa4608d91fd41ac8%7C765a8de5cf9444f09cafae5bf8cfa366%7C0%7C1%7C637575818113072811%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=VlMZF5Gn76VhiYuo8RVPgz1CXK3Xb9o8Bim6ZommRYU%3D&reserved=0
> >>
> >>This is for future reference, in case anyone else wants to try
> >>compiling it. What you do is unpack that directory, move in, and
> >>(assuming you have TeX Live) run 'pdflatex dgn.tex' a couple of times.
> >>
> >>> bob
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> bob jantzen
> >>> http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
> >>>
> >>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.d
> >>>
> >>rbobenterprises.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Crobert.jantzen%40villanova.e
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>> doJVSwwaFlhtx12%2Fk2jJgiO8o562z4XVTj1npdcFCKk%3D&reserved=0
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: AC <achirvasub at gmail.com>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:00 PM
> >>> To: Robert Jantzen <robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>
> >>> Cc: texhax at tug.org; Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>;
> >>Dr
> >>> Alan Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>
> >>> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On May 25, 2021 6:56:12 PM EDT, Robert Jantzen
> >><robert.jantzen at villanova.edu> wrote:
> >>> >It was your cache I think...??
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> It was not: your "corrected" link still reads 'dngimages' (just look
> >>back at the message; you don't have to take my word for it).
> >>>
> >>> I manually corrected it to 'dgnimages', so I know the cache was not
> >>the issue.
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >bob jantzen
> >>> >http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
> >>>
> >>>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> >>> >dr
> >>>
> >>>bobenterprises.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Crobert.jantzen%40villanova.e
> >>> >du
> >>>
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> >>> >6%
> >>>
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> >>> >MD
> >>>
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> >>> >2a
> >>> >6U2sfCFB25%2BCJJ5vHNSRfc8p42WxiqVGR5jh34%3D&reserved=0
> >>> >
> >>> >-----Original Message-----
> >>> >From: Stuart Little <achirvasub at gmail.com>
> >>> >Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 6:55 PM
> >>> >To: Robert Jantzen <robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>
> >>> >Cc: texhax at tug.org; Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>;
> >
> >>> >Dr Alan Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>
> >>> >Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
> >>> >
> >>> >On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:41:25PM +0000, Robert Jantzen wrote:
> >>> >> Sorry, I misspelled DifferentialGeometryNotes as dng instead of
> >>dgn
> >>> >in
> >>> >> haste yesterday. I corrected it to
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dng
> >>> >i
> >>> >> mages.zip
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >:D That's not correct though: it's still 'dng'! No worries though,
> >>> >since you explained what was wrong I simply corrected it and got
> >the
> >>
> >>> >source.
> >>> >
> >>> >The file compiled in seconds on TeX Live 2021, with one
> >>> >*apparently*-show-stopping UTF-8 error that I simply clicked
> >>'Return'
> >>> >to bypass (I have not tried to debug). Does this look like it's
> >>> >worked fine? You can find the result at
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
> >>> >.d
> >>>
> >>>ropbox.com%2Fs%2Fv1zvklzaubu8b9j%2Fdgn.pdf%3Fdl%3D0&data=04%7C01%
> >>> >7C
> >>>
> >>>robert.jantzen%40villanova.edu%7Cb9ce96f09da84b7e9e9508d91fd0d139%7C7
> >>> >65
> >>>
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> >>> >7C
> >>>
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> >>> >El
> >>> >c%3D&reserved=0
> >>> >
> >>> >I should note, in that pdf I am able to navigate cross-links just
> >>> >fine (I can jump to table-of-contents items, or images, or
> >whatever,
> >>
> >>> >by simply clicking the hyperlinks in the document).
> >>> >
> >>> >> I did not intend anyone to waste much time on this, but it is
> >>> >frustrating that these different packages fail on me! I do have
> >>> >administrator access to my windows 10 machine.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> bob
> >>> >>
> >>> >> bob jantzen
> >>> >> http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> >>> >d
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>rbobenterprises.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Crobert.jantzen%40villanova.
> >>> >e
> >>> >>
> >>>
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> >>> >3
> >>> >>
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> >>> >>
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> >>> >=
> >>> >> 716FZbaLulfB0fmyT%2FXFdKSvW8XK%2BZwgPCk6nOBhAt0%3D&reserved=0
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>> >> From: AC <achirvasub at gmail.com>
> >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 6:35 PM
> >>> >> To: texhax at tug.org; Robert Jantzen
> ><robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>;
> >>
> >>> >> Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>; Dr Alan
> >Litchfield
> >>
> >>> >> <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>
> >>> >> Cc: texhax at tug.org
> >>> >> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On May 25, 2021 6:03:40 PM EDT, Robert Jantzen
> >>> ><robert.jantzen at villanova.edu> wrote:
> >>> >> >This is my book:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/in
> >>> >>d
> >>> >> >ex .htm The complete LaTeX source consists of two zipped files
> >>here:
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/te
> >>> >>x
> >>> >> >di
> >>> >> >stribution.htm
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >> If I visit this last link I get to a page that in turn points me
> >>to
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dgn
> >>> >t
> >>> >> exfiles2021.zip
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dng
> >>> >i
> >>> >> mages.zip
> >>> >>
> >>> >> and
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dgn
> >>> >i
> >>> >> magesepspdf.zip
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The second one of those, presumably, is supposed to contain
> >>images.
> >>> >> Alas, it doesn't work: clicking it results in
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Not Found
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The requested URL /robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dngimages.zip
> >was
> >>> >not found on this server.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Apache/2.2.15 (Oracle) Server at www34.homepage.villanova.edu
> >Port
> >>
> >>> >> 80
> >>> >>
> >>> >> ---
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Ironic, given that abandoned websites came up in a companion
> >>thread
> >>> >not too long ago :).
> >>> >>
> >>> >> >This folder contains also the "converted-to-pdf.pdf" image files
> >>> >from
> >>> >> >using MikTex Texworks or TexnicCenter (I cannot remember any
> >more
> >>
> >>> >> >what I did back in the early teens of this decade):
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>>http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/notes/diffgeom/dg
> >>> >>n
> >>> >> >im
> >>> >> >agesepspdf.zip
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >Should I try Tex Live next?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >How is this possible? I really don't understand. Also how did
> >you
> >>
> >>> >> >guys get my email shot in the dark at TUG?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >bob
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >bob jantzen
> >>> >> >http://www34.homepage.villanova.edu/robert.jantzen/
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> >>> >> >dr
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>>bobenterprises.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Crobert.jantzen%40villanova.
> >>> >>e
> >>> >> >du
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> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >From: Philip Taylor <P.Taylor at Hellenic-Institute.Uk>
> >>> >> >Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:24 AM
> >>> >> >To: Dr Alan Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>; Robert Jantzen
> >>> >> ><robert.jantzen at villanova.edu>
> >>> >> >Cc: texhax at tug.org
> >>> >> >Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: TeX on Windows?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >Dr Alan Litchfield wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >[Download the iso image and] mount it onto your computer.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >Not possible under Windows 7, Alan, unless additional software
> >is
> >>
> >>> >> >installed. But to Bob :
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >I have been happily using PCTeX all these years, and will
> >>continue
> >>> >to
> >>> >> >do so but it seems like PCTeX has left us in the past two years
> >>> >since
> >>> >> >I communicated with someone there at the company. Does anyone
> >>know
> >>> >> >what happened to them?
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
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> >>> >> >website seems abandoned
> >>> >> >Is there any other for pay product to replace it?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >Pass. Although I used to pay for TeX back in the Kellerman &
> >>> >> >Smith days, I have not done so since then, and have never paid
> >>for
> >>> >> >a PC version. Many years ago the late, great, Sebastian Rahtz
> >>> >> >persuaded me to switch to TeX Live, and I have never looked
> >back.
> >>
> >>> >> >In the past
> >>> >
> >>> >> >I would use the network installer, or download and burn the ISO,
> >
> >>> >> >or download and mount the ISO, but these days I use Rsynch to
> >>> >> >fetch the
> >>> >
> >>> >> >installation suite and install from my local copy. The real
> >>> >> >problem
> >>> >
> >>> >> >is that TeX Live is not a Windows product - it is a generic
> >>> >> >product that has to support $2^n+1$ variant operating systems
> >>(how
> >>> >> >many different ways can you spell "Linux" ?), and as a result
> >the
> >>
> >>> >> >documentation too has to be generic, which is distinctly
> >>> >sub-optimal.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >I am certain that together the TeX user community will be able
> >to
> >>
> >>> >> >assist you, but some background information will be vital, and
> >it
> >>
> >>> >> >will almost certainly take several iterations before we achieve
> >>> >> >complete success. So, questions :
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > 1. Exactly which operating system are you running 2. Are
> >you
> >>
> >>> >> > able to access your computer as am administrator 3.
> >>> >Do
> >>> >> >you have fast Internet access from your computer ? (where
> >"fast"
> >>
> >>> >> >=>
> >>> >
> >>> >> >better than 10Mbps) ?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >And to my fellow TeX and Windows users - given that one can
> >>> >> >install (for example) Windows 7 from a USB stick, using the
> >>> >> >Microsoft
> >>> >Windows
> >>> >> >USB/DVD download
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>>tool<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F
> >>> >>%
> >>> >> >2F
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>>https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>>microsoft.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Crobert.jantzen%40villanova.edu%7
> >>> >>C
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>>ecc92b3ee71a4d9a77ab08d91fd0229b%7C765a8de5cf9444f09cafae5bf8cfa366%
> >>> >>7
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>>C0%7C1%7C637575801075724251%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAw
> >>> >>M
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>>DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=K
> >>> >>Q
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>>bfE5J2MK6JsgaP%2B3W7aWu15gmmma7vSMXR40cZOD0%3D&reserved=0%2Fen-G
> >>> >>B
> >>> >> >%2Fdownload%2Fdetails.aspx%3Fid%3D56485&da
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>>ta=04%7C01%7Crobert.jantzen%40villanova.edu%7C37594bc3f4934766160608
> >>> >>d
> >>> >> >91
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>>fcd4c15%7C765a8de5cf9444f09cafae5bf8cfa366%7C0%7C1%7C637575788869972
> >>> >>8
> >>> >> >37
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>>%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI
> >>> >>6
> >>> >> >Ik
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>>>1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=2dxiVAmy3dkLfTtzybSwmmuADkfpe8
> >>> >>r
> >>> >> >B2 Mk6TvLg5oc%3D&reserved=0>, has anyone investigated
> >whether
> >>
> >>> >> >an
> >>> >
> >>> >> >analogous methodology could be used to install TeX Live from a
> >>USB
> >>> >> >stick for people such as Bob who lack a DVD reader ?
> >>> >> >--
> >>> >> >Philip Taylor
>
>
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